BlueMouse

[admin]

Thanks to the original idea of Vasco Miguel, and to our development team, this new application is available.

BlueMouse allows you to have a mouse cursor on your Pocket PC. Any standard Bluetooth Mouse can be used.

More details on BlueMouse can be found here: www.teksoftco.com .
The original BlueMouse thread is here: http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=873

Your feedback would help us know what should be improved for the next release.

Mr.A.

[forests.gump]

Would teksoft be interested to follow up with a bluekey/bluekeyboard?

[xdamini]

I use PPC Phone ASUS P535 and Bluetooth Mouse BTM-5961.
After install the driver, it can't find my bluetooth inside PPC even I turn it on.

[sad_ghost]

@xdamini

Currently BlueMouse does not support devices with Widcomm (Broadcomm) Bluetooth stack such is the case of Acer and Asus devices.
Also Fujitsu Siemens T810/T830 have this stack so BlueMouse will not run on them.
We will do our best to add support for Widcomm stack in the future.

Regards,
Raul

[radhoo]

forests.gump, it's possible, a bit too early to say it for sure.

[radhoo]

Guys, many of you have asked if BlueMouse can work on a smartphone.

Yes it can, or at least partially:

-the Smartphones interfaces do not handle the tap down/up events. Still some standard windows controls do (listboxes, listviews, etc).

I have played with my HTC Hertz a bit, I have installed the BLueMouse 1.0 version available at www.teksoftco.com , and here is the result, please download the attached movie / pictures to see.

[radhoo]

Hm, a very cool thing is that you can play BubbleBreaker on the Smartphone using BlueMouse

There might be other games/apps too.

[Flor27]

Hi,

Does BlueMouse is actually compatible with a Widcomm BT stack patched Dell Axim x51v ?

I have actually no BT mouse so I may ask first to buy one...



Thank's !

[radhoo]

Flor27, only Microsft BT Stack is supported in version 1.0

But your Axim can be reverted back to the Microsoft BT Stack, so it shouldn't be a problem for you.

[Flor27]

Hi Radhoo,

Yes, it can be reverted but I would prefer not

Do you have any plan to make it Widcomm BT Stack compatible for a next release ?

Thank's !

[radhoo]

I think a Widcomm version would be also needed.. Can't talk about a date for this.

[forests.gump]

forests.gump, it's possible, a bit too early to say it for sure.

radhoo, that is a good piece of news.

Those that have BT mouse & keyboard, will surely look forward to this day!
(you think I could be the beta tester and get a copy of the finished product?)

[ScratchyPDX]

I'm using a Kensington mouse with BlueMouse. Let me first say, this is sooo cool. However, I am not able to access all parts of the screen. The mouse cursor will only to within 1/2 inch of the right and bottom portions of the screen.

I have tried an uninstall/reinstall with the same results. Is this a feature of the "trial mode"?

I have a Dell Axim X50v with WM5 A02.

Edit: Oops!! Never mind. I just read the Help file and see it mentions that only 80% of the screen is available in the trial.

[radhoo]

ScratchyPDX, thanks for sharing your configuration.

Indeed, as you already know that was a limitation of the trial version in BlueMouse 1.0

In the BlueMouse 1.0 Trial version, the cursor can be moved on 80% of the screen only.

We might change this in a future release, as it seems it creates some confusion among our users.

[Flor27]

Do you plan to support in some dreamin' future bluetooth gamepads ?

I mean PS3 "SixAxis", Wiimote, ...

BluePad product anyone ?



Edit: if it's out of focus here http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2800

[dtill]

I have looked such application for many months. Cool soft!!! But I have some strange behavior with my Dell Axim x51v and mouse Logitech Cordless v270. It works generally, but it is impossible to move smoothly the cursor. It jumps with some pixels of distance - it is not so easy to put the cursor over some small object on the screen. Maybe somebody knows what is going on? I will check my mouse with another device like PC, notebook - maybe mouse is the reason of this problem.

Thanks

[dtill]

Ok, I checked it with my PC and it works fine. So, there is some problem with bluemouse or MS BT stack or ...I dont know. Have sombody the same configuration like me:
Dell x51v + Logitech Cordless V270 ??

[FireflyII]

I've also got the x51v, and have been trying bluemouse. Cool as it is, I'm a bit disappointed (or, more accurately, frustrated) with it so far. As previously mentioned, the cursor does not move smoothly at all, jumping several pixels at a time, and making it hard to reach a specific area of the screen. In addition, it seems to jump a little chaotically around the screen as I try to move it, and highlights or selects things randomly, along with scrolling constantly if I move the cursor downards. I have been looking for a way to get a working mouse for a while now, and have been anxiously anticipating this one, but sadly, in its present form, it is essentially unusable. I have used the mouse with a computer, so I'm fairly certain it's functinal, and I am running the MS bluetooth stack (although I was running Widcomm before reverting in order to install bluemouse).

I hope the kinks can be ironed out, because I really am interested in this app, and would be happy to buy it if it was a little more usable.

Thanks for all the effort that has been invested in this so far, and I hope I'm in the minority of people for whom it doesn't quite work.

[radhoo]

Dear All,

thanks for the feedback - we are planning to release an update that would fix these little issues.

Logitech v270 is the first target, others to follow.

[banditos]

QTEC 9000 + Turst MI-5300p BT mouse = no cursor

[radhoo]

QTEC 9000 + Turst MI-5300p BT mouse = no cursor

I have a HTC Universal (QTEK 9000) and a Trust MI-5300m and for me works perfectly.

I suggest you check the manual, you must have done something wrong.

[lecureuil]

Hello,
I have the same trouble than DTILL with my AXIM X51V and my MS Wireless Notbook Presenter Mouse 8000.

[krab]

why no virtual mouse cursor like "pirazu"?

[radhoo]

Hello,
I have the same trouble than DTILL with my AXIM X51V and my MS Wireless Notbook Presenter Mouse 8000.

So the cursor "jumps"? Did you try to set it to 1X?

Have a look on this presentation page:
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3857

I'm not sure what Pocket PC was used but I know there was a MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000.

[radhoo]

why no virtual mouse cursor like "pirazu"?

I guess it's the same as on the Desktop PC, nobody uses the arrow keys to move the mouse.

[banditos]

QTEC 9000 + Turst MI-5300p BT mouse = no cursor

I have a HTC Universal (QTEK 9000) and a Trust MI-5300m and for me works perfectly.

I suggest you check the manual, you must have done something wrong.

My mouse have empty pair password (0000, 1234 not work) - may be in this problem...

[radhoo]

banditos, do you get the "Input device" service exported by your mouse?

Please see http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?sect ... =info#lnk7

and

http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?sect ... =info#lnk4

[lecureuil]

Hello,
I have the same trouble than DTILL with my AXIM X51V and my MS Wireless Notbook Presenter Mouse 8000.

So the cursor "jumps"? Did you try to set it to 1X?

Have a look on this presentation page:
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3857

I'm not sure what Pocket PC was used but I know there was a MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000.

I try with 1X = the move is eratic ( like handshaking)

[banditos]

banditos, do you get the "Input device" service exported by your mouse?

Please see http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?sect ... =info#lnk7

and

http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?sect ... =info#lnk4

I'm not very dummy. I read this document.
After input empty password, I see check box with "Input Device".
But click "Start" button in BlueMouse dialog do nothing...

[FireflyII]

"erratic" is a good way of putting it...
The cursor sort of flickers over the screen. If I can think of a decent way to record it, I'll post a video and hopefully that will help.

[radhoo]

Guys,

on your devices, while the cursor moves with this flickering you've descriebed, does it also trigger events live left click without you actually pressing the left click or is just this "jumping" issue?


Thanks,
Radu

[FireflyII]

Yes, it does indeed trigger the left mouse click without me actually pressing the button.

[radhoo]

Ok this means that on some models the data is missinterpreted. Not a big concern, will be fixed in the next update.

[Achtung]

Yes, it does indeed trigger the left mouse click without me actually pressing the button.

Same erratic behaviour with Dell Axim X51v and Trust MI-5300m.

[radhoo]

Yes, it does indeed trigger the left mouse click without me actually pressing the button.

Same erratic behaviour with Dell Axim X51v and Trust MI-5300m.

Hm, I also have an Axim x51v, and again the mi-5300m mouse. Any special steps to reproduce this on the Axim?

[Achtung]

I don't know any special step to reproduce these efects. I just installed Bluemouse and began testing it. The first thing I did was set it to 1X because the speed was too high (I would even set it to 0.5X if it was possible).

After that I began opening some programs and playing a little. The movement was erratic sometimes, not always, and the left mouse click was triggered several times. Thinking on it, maybe due to a previous deliberate click that later was automatically replicated, but I'm not sure.

[wilbur]

I have an HX4700 and a Logitech v270 wich I'd like to use together.
I've installed BlueMouse but I cannot make bluetooth work in combination with Bluemouse.

Is this an Widcomm problem? And if yes, is it going to be fixed or is there a work around.

I would also like to use the Bluemusic app but it also doesn't work

[radhoo]

BlueMusic and BlueMouse only work with Microsoft BT Stack.

So if you have a different BLuetooth stack you can't use them.

For BlueMouse we are planning to release a Widcomm compatible version, for BlueMusic this is not decided yet.

[fletchbiz]

I don't know any special step to reproduce these efects. I just installed Bluemouse and began testing it. The first thing I did was set it to 1X because the speed was too high (I would even set it to 0.5X if it was possible).

After that I began opening some programs and playing a little. The movement was erratic sometimes, not always, and the left mouse click was triggered several times. Thinking on it, maybe due to a previous deliberate click that later was automatically replicated, but I'm not sure.

I have installed the trial version of Bluemouse 1.0 on my Dell Axim X51v and paired up with my Logitech V270 mouse. Of course, in the trial version, part of the screen is inaccessible. Nevertheless, as others have noted, even set at 1x speed the cursor jumps all over the place -- even with the most careful and precise mouse movements. Also the cursor is spontaneously activating objects all over the screen. For example, when I try to view my e-mail it rapidly scrolls through the message list.

In short, on an Axim X51v using Logitech V270, Bluemouse 1.0 performs the most basic function: it successfullly pairs with the mouse and puts up a cursor on the display. Beyond that, it is certainly not usable.

I've read that Teksoft working on an update, and you can be sure that I will download and install it as soon as I find out that it's available. Once this software is working properly, I'll be happy to pay the fee to register it.

Charlie

[qterra]

Installed and payed for BlueMouse. It works with no noticeable issues so far, and I'm pleased of it.

I have a Dell Axim x51v and a IOGear BT Mouse (http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GME225B).


I've noticed that some users complained about the Logitech v270, and as I have a background of Software Testing over several years I just want to point out that it's a bit strange that so many issues appear with this particular mouse (logitech v270). Maybe it's something wrong or different with this mouse.

[fletchbiz]

Installed and payed for BlueMouse. It works with no noticeable issues so far, and I'm pleased of it.

I have a Dell Axim x51v and a IOGear BT Mouse (http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GME225B).


I've noticed that some users complained about the Logitech v270, and as I have a background of Software Testing over several years I just want to point out that it's a bit strange that so many issues appear with this particular mouse (logitech v270). Maybe it's something wrong or different with this mouse.

I saw that mouse on Amazon when I shopped for a BT mouse. It got poor reviews and cost $20 more. So I opted for the V270.

[qterra]

I saw that mouse on Amazon when I shopped for a BT mouse. It got poor reviews and cost $20 more. So I opted for the V270.

I'll make sure to add a positive review there because it works for me.

Nevertheless I see that Teksoft promissed to provide an update for BlueMouse, usually these kind of updates support addional hardware - you can't have it going for all the devices in the world from the first version - it would take a huge effort only to test it.

I think it's good that they provided this solution in the first place, now we need to support them with feedback so they know what needs to be done next.

[radhoo]

Dear All,

we have found the cause for the "erathic" movement / jumping movement some of you complained about and we are planing to support additional mice in the next update.

you would be really amazed to see how many differences there are between those tiny mice available - so we will do our best to support as many as possible.

now it is a good time to discuss what was good and what was bad in 1.0, so we can take your wishes into consideration.

Radu

[ltxda]

Hello,
I have the same trouble than DTILL with my AXIM X51V and my MS Wireless Notbook Presenter Mouse 8000.

Would you mind helping me install the MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000? I keep getting prompted for a passcode but it's not working. The first instance I get prompted I leave it blank as it doesn't take 0000 or 1234. This works but then I'm prompted for a second passcode and the blank doesn't work here. It's telling me to secure the connection. Did you have this problem? I'm running WM5. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

FYI, I'm using an HTC x7500/Advantage and WM5.

[radhoo]

Would you mind helping me install the MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000? I keep getting prompted for a passcode but it's not working. The first instance I get prompted I leave it blank as it doesn't take 0000 or 1234. This works but then I'm prompted for a second passcode and the blank doesn't work here. It's telling me to secure the connection. Did you have this problem? I'm running WM5. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

FYI, I'm using an HTC x7500/Advantage and WM5.

Your mouse doesn't have a passcode, so the right approach is to leave the password field empty as you did in the first screen.

However in the second password screen this is not an option as it doesn't accept not to enter a passcode. We have created a solution for this already, and it will be in the next release. In the meantime the only thing you can try is:
1) in the first screen don't enter any password, just hit Next, select the "Input Device" service and press finish
2) when the notification bubble appears (second password request), press NO.

We've noticed that in some cases this would help the mouse connect - still don't expect great results with this.

The problem will be fixed when the next version is released (~2 weeks from now) so I think it's best to use that one directly.

Also regarding the options BlueMouse provides, if someone needs something extra in this application now it's the time to discuss it.

[ltxda]

Would you mind helping me install the MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000? I keep getting prompted for a passcode but it's not working. The first instance I get prompted I leave it blank as it doesn't take 0000 or 1234. This works but then I'm prompted for a second passcode and the blank doesn't work here. It's telling me to secure the connection. Did you have this problem? I'm running WM5. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

FYI, I'm using an HTC x7500/Advantage and WM5.

Your mouse doesn't have a passcode, so the right approach is to leave the password field empty as you did in the first screen.

However in the second password screen this is not an option as it doesn't accept not to enter a passcode. We have created a solution for this already, and it will be in the next release. In the meantime the only thing you can try is:
1) in the first screen don't enter any password, just hit Next, select the "Input Device" service and press finish
2) when the notification bubble appears (second password request), press NO.

We've noticed that in some cases this would help the mouse connect - still don't expect great results with this.

The problem will be fixed when the next version is released (~2 weeks from now) so I think it's best to use that one directly.

Also regarding the options BlueMouse provides, if someone needs something extra in this application now it's the time to discuss it.

Ok. Thanks for the quick response. I love this mouse and want to keep it so I'll wait the approx. two weeks. If all goes well I'll purchase a copy of the software, which I'm anxious to have.

I know the first step of this software is to possibly just get the mouse to work without skipping across the screen, etc. In the future do you see being able to program the right, left and wheel buttons on the mouse for specific tasks and shortcuts?

Could you code additional functionality as follows using button combinations? Examples:
- Hold down left button and click right = some action.
- Hold down right button and click left = some other action.
- Hold down left button and wheel down = action.
- Hold down right button and wheel down = action.
- Hold down left button and wheel up = action.
- Hold down right button and wheel up = action.
- Triple click right button = action.
- Triple click left button = action.
- Hold down left button and triple click right = action.
- Hold down right button and triple click left = aciton.
....i know you see my point.
There is a great deal of functionality to get from doing something like this and it will help speed up the use of the PocketPC. Similar to prgramming the hardware buttons on the devices but in your case it's the mouse buttons through your software.

Eventually will the software have the capability as follows?:
- You go to setup, click on add new button...this puts the software into a "detect" mode and you then click on additional buttons on the mouse and they are added to the list of programmable buttons within the software? AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) does something like this and it would be a great feature to have. For example, the Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000 has approx. 11-13 buttons that can be programmed.

Can you build a menu into your programm that can be customized by the user? If you right click and hold on the screen for more than 5 seconds a menu can pop up giving you copy/paste/create shortcut/go to/send to/phone/etc.

Not sure if any of this is possible with your software but those are some of my initial suggestions/requests. Hope this is a good start and others will continue to build on the list.

[ltxda]

Would you mind helping me install the MS Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000? I keep getting prompted for a passcode but it's not working. The first instance I get prompted I leave it blank as it doesn't take 0000 or 1234. This works but then I'm prompted for a second passcode and the blank doesn't work here. It's telling me to secure the connection. Did you have this problem? I'm running WM5. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

FYI, I'm using an HTC x7500/Advantage and WM5.

Your mouse doesn't have a passcode, so the right approach is to leave the password field empty as you did in the first screen.

However in the second password screen this is not an option as it doesn't accept not to enter a passcode. We have created a solution for this already, and it will be in the next release. In the meantime the only thing you can try is:
1) in the first screen don't enter any password, just hit Next, select the "Input Device" service and press finish
2) when the notification bubble appears (second password request), press NO.

We've noticed that in some cases this would help the mouse connect - still don't expect great results with this.

The problem will be fixed when the next version is released (~2 weeks from now) so I think it's best to use that one directly.

Also regarding the options BlueMouse provides, if someone needs something extra in this application now it's the time to discuss it.

I did as recommended. Thanks again for the info.

Here is what's happening to me:

- I start your software
- I join the mouse as recommended
- I notice the mouse stays in pairing mode so I restart the mouse
- I soft reset the device
- Still no cursor

Do you have any recommendations so I can get it at the very least working. I'm not expecting it to work perfectly, just curious if I can get the cursor to show up.

I have an HTC x7500/Advantage (aka, TMobile Ameo, Dopod U1000, etc). If you need me to test things I'll be happy to volunteer.

Thanks.

[radhoo]

Itxda, thanks for the suggestions.

I'm afraid that if you were unable to pair the mouse to the device then you can do nothing just wait for the next update. It's not an issue of the device (see the picture below - BlueMouse on X7500) but of mouse. As I said before these mice are not all working in the same way, this is why we are preparing an update to BlueMouse to support even more models.

ps: the mini-mouse in the picture is a Trust MI-5300m .

[ltxda]

Itxda, thanks for the suggestions.

I'm afraid that if you were unable to pair the mouse to the device then you can do nothing just wait for the next update. It's not an issue of the device (see the picture below - BlueMouse on X7500) but of mouse. As I said before these mice are not all working in the same way, this is why we are preparing an update to BlueMouse to support even more models.

ps: the mini-mouse in the picture is a Trust MI-5300m .

Ok and understood. Looking forward to the next version. If it works well I'm buying five licenses of the software...one for me and the others for four friends.

PS: Is there anywhere where someone might be able to download daily builds? Like a CSV repository?

[fletchbiz]

Some others have made some excellent feature requests, so I'll keep mine short. If the update does not fix the extra-fast tracking (even at 1x) with the Logitech V270, I would request that you adjust this.

I noted that even in your video demonstrating the use of Bluemouse, the person using the mouse is moving it ever so slightly to achieve much greater cursor movement on the handheld.

It would be nice to have the ability to set the tracking to at least a true one-to-one ratio.

Thanks!

Charlie

Dear All,

we have found the cause for the "erathic" movement / jumping movement some of you complained about and we are planing to support additional mice in the next update.

you would be really amazed to see how many differences there are between those tiny mice available - so we will do our best to support as many as possible.

now it is a good time to discuss what was good and what was bad in 1.0, so we can take your wishes into consideration.

Radu