FingerTouch

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FingerTouch

Postby admin » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:05 am

FingerTouch is a new kind of keyboard for your mobile device that offers the best typing experience possible. To achieve this performance, FingerTouch comes with finger-friendly buttons, and 5 different keyboards to fit everyone's needs. After downloading the CAB you will have your new keyboard up and running in just a few seconds.

FingerTouch comes with the "UltraKeyboard" technology built-in, meaning that you will be able to use macros to increase typing speed, and also to trigger specific actions directly from your keyboard. Phone numbers, email addresses, web links, often used greetings and many more - FingerTouch is your number 1 choice for handling your input data!

Note: UltraKeyboard is an advanced macroing system. You can use it mainly for the replace with phrase action . By typing a predefined trigger combination with your keyboard, you get the predefined phrase, very useful for repetitive chunks of texts like email greetings. Actually this is a unique feature that we've also seen in Smartbar, but for Hardware keyboards.

Enjoy this new software, comments are welcomed.

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Postby FireflyII » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:14 pm

Hi there,

This new keyboard looks very interesting, but something went wrong for me and I can't use it. I installed it last night before going to bed, but didn't get a chance to really try it out beyond seeing that it was there and working. This morning it told me the trial period was over. I unistalled and reinstalled it a couple times to no avail, and right now even though it's supposed to be unistalled, the icon is still there for the keyboard on the bottom bar.

If you can help me get it to work again, I'm still interested in trying it out some more.

Thanks!
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Postby admin » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:32 pm

Hi,

There was a small problem (actually a redundant protection) for cases when the user would have installed the software twice (or when re-installing after an uninstall).

Please uninstall your current version, do a reset, then re-download the software from the website and re-install it on your device. Go to the About tab page (Settings->Input->Options) and make sure it's 1.0. RC-4
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Accent characters?...

Postby vmiguel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:18 pm

Hi all,

First, congratulations on this new software (and on the site's and program logo's new look).

Now, let me start ranting! ;)

Where are the accents???

Like àáâã ç èéê ìíî òóôõ ùúû???

And those are just the portuguese ones, don't forget about the nordics also, like äåæ ë ï ?ö ü... and the list goes on...

I'm going to the beach, with my Universal on a waterproof bag, and I canot use the hardware keyboard.

Of all the soft keyboards I've seen, yours is the most appealing, but I do need the accents.

Please, give us a v1.1 with accents, as soon as possible. :)
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Postby FireflyII » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:24 pm

admin wrote:Hi,

There was a small problem (actually a redundant protection) for cases when the user would have installed the software twice (or when re-installing after an uninstall).

Please uninstall your current version, do a reset, then re-download the software from the website and re-install it on your device. Go to the About tab page (Settings->Input->Options) and make sure it's 1.0. RC-4


Thank you, I've now got it working. It looks quite nice, but I'm rather confused about some of the modes. I'll have to look through the pdf when I get a chance.
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Postby Sn0wflake » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:03 pm

Where are the accents???

Like àáâã ç èéê ìíî òóôõ ùúû???

Thanks Vasco, I have to admit that as always, you have a well trained eye for sensitive, important details 8)

All the 5 layouts are for English language, so are the advanced features like letter statistics, but we will offer localized versions too.

There were some other users spotting this important issue:
http://www.pcdemano.com/modules.php?nam ... &sid=12367

so rest assured that we will keep it in mind for a next release.
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Postby Sn0wflake » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:05 pm

FireflyII wrote:Thank you, I've now got it working. It looks quite nice, but I'm rather confused about some of the modes. I'll have to look through the pdf when I get a chance.

Hello FireFly, you can use the Pdf, or if needed contact our support.
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Postby SBS » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:54 am

Tried out this piece of software today and I think it's great. This will be a sure buy for me once the localized versions come out (norwegian for me in particular)

I'm just wondering how you are going to incorporate accented characters? Like the ones I use in my language: æøå. Will it be like three presses on the "as"-button for å, and likewise for the other letters (ø -> three presses "op" and æ -> e)? Or do you have another solution in mind?

I've always wanted a good fingertyping keyboard for my WM6 device and this seems like a good product so it would be great if you could make localized versions any time soon :)

It's mainly keyboard 5 I'm talking about, but keyboard 3 is also interresting
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Postby Sn0wflake » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:36 pm

Thanks for your feedback, always happy to hear new ideas.

Accented characters will surely be integrated(at least in keyboard 1 and 5) in the next release(early septembre 2007),so don't forget to keep on eye on it.


For additional suggestions feel free to post them here


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Postby texg900 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:59 pm

Looks great!

Tried it on my Toshiba G900 but it doesn't work unfortunately. Can you guys make Fingertouch support WVGA devices?

Thanks already!
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Postby Sn0wflake » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:50 pm

texg900 wrote:Looks great!

Tried it on my Toshiba G900 but it doesn't work unfortunately. Can you guys make Fingertouch support WVGA devices?

Thanks already!


doesn't it work at all? Can you send some screen captures?

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Postby texg900 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:58 pm

It installs fine. I can select it in the Input and IMSelector. Its available in the list of sips at the bottom input selector. But it doesn't run. Tried soft-resetting, no go either.

I can't make any screenshots because the keyboard never appears. I got the same problem with all other sips. Guess 800x480 resolution needs to be hard coded somehow.

Hope you can find a way to run it, I hate the default sip (way to small for finger action)!
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Postby Johny » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:08 pm

texg900 wrote:Hope you can find a way to run it, I hate the default sip (way to small for finger action)!

Definitely agree with you, for finger friendly sips, this one is the best choice!
I hope we see it included in the official roms and have it as a standard software.
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Postby Sn0wflake » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:11 pm

texg900 wrote: I got the same problem with all other sips. Guess 800x480 resolution needs to be hard coded somehow.


Ok we'll try do do something about this. Would you like to be a beta tester?

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Postby texg900 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:14 pm

meda wrote:
texg900 wrote: I got the same problem with all other sips. Guess 800x480 resolution needs to be hard coded somehow.


Ok we'll try do do something about this. Would you like to be a beta tester?

Meda


Sure, my pleasure!
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Postby gadgetwizard » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:21 pm

I tried this keyboard and i really like it, however i seem to have to make extremely rapid taps on the screen in order to access the secondary characters.

For instance using the phone keypad to type 'john', i tap 5 once then 6 three times then 4 twice then 6 twice. But when i try it i can't tap 6 quick enough to get the third character. Or for that matter 4 quick enough to get (h).

Just so you know i use a HTC Touch and have installed HTC Phone Pad, using this method (similar to Teksoft Phone keypad) i can easily tap the screen and get the secondary characters.

As i say the problem appears to be that the screen needs to be tapped too rapidly.

Is there any way to slow down the speed that the screen needs to tapped?

Oh i just tried Big Keyboard and get the same problem, i can't press q quickly enough to get w

Also while using this software i have just had a complete freeze, something i have never had with WM6.
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Postby Sn0wflake » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:15 am

Hello gadgetwizard,

The time used for changing the keys it's not configurable, but it's convenient, 700 ms set, so thaks for the observation, we'll make sure to add a new slider for this one, but probably the cause in your situation is that the value from Repeat Delay(go to Options, Config tab) it's too close to "Short" extremity, this is resposable for the period after which the keys start to repeat, you should adjust the Repeat Delay to a convenient value.

What was the context for the freezing issue ?What text editor were you using?
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Postby gadgetwizard » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:24 pm

meda,

Thanks for the info. I will try the suggestion for the repeat delay.

The freeze happened like this.

Using Pocket PC Memo Application
Entering Text Using Fingertouch
Wanting to check the configuration options I Selected the arrow next to text input method at bottom of the screen
Chose Options
This changed to the windows input method screen.
Fingertouch was already selected in the drop down list
I pressed the options button and that's when the phone froze.
I had to soft reset to return to normal.
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Postby Sn0wflake » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:48 pm

Please give us a link to Memo application so we can investigate this issue with both applications installed. Also how often did you experience this freezing? Can you reproduce the freezing?
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Postby gadgetwizard » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:03 pm

The memo application i was using is the built in one. I think it is commonly known as Notes.

I have not reproduced the freeze. (Once was enough for me.)

I have since tried the same series of events and did not experience the same freeze.

I do not know, there may have been something else still running in the background. (Unlikely as the HTC Touch closes open programs and not minimize).

I will let you know if the same freeze happens again.

Oh, here's another thing i have just noticed, the registration screen is corrupt. The part that shows the device ID is covered over by the registration box. If i move out of the registration screen and back in, the screen is corrupt in a different way.

I have just soft reset the device and the registration screen is OK.

BTW, here is a list of installed programs.

Mark Space Missing Sync
SPB Backup
Webis Flexwallet
HTC Phone Pad Application

Could the HTC phone pad be causing problems? It is not installed by default on the Touch.

I might try uninstalling the phone pad this evening and see if stability improves.

Will report back.
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Postby gadgetwizard » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:43 pm

OK, here's where i am at the moment.

Everything seems to be working OK, i have not had another freeze. I have tried both phone pad installed and not installed.

Currently Phone Pad is installed. And so is Fingertouch.

I like Fingertouch so much i have registered my copy.

I would still like some way to slow down the key press speed as it seems to require a faster input rate than phonepad. I can get by but only just.

I would say this has really added that missing feature to my HTC Touch, a brilliant way to enter text.

Thanks all,
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Postby Sn0wflake » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:27 pm

Glad to hear that gadgetwizard, regarding the slider for adjusting the speed for the multi-keys it will be supported in the next release.

Don't hesitate all of you to give us new ideas for the next release, it will surely be taken into consideration.
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AWESOME PRODUCT!

Postby ltxda » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:58 pm

Man, this is by FAR the best keyboard released for the PPC platform. I've tried so many and this beats them all. Works great on the x7500 too!
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Postby ltxda » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:00 am

meda wrote:Glad to hear that gadgetwizard, regarding the slider for adjusting the speed for the multi-keys it will be supported in the next release.

Don't hesitate all of you to give us new ideas for the next release, it will surely be taken into consideration.


Would you guys consider implementing some type of gestures into this keyboard like the default? It would help so much if we could drag up for an uppercase letter and do the rest of the gestures like the default one with PPC.
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Postby Mattie » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:15 pm

I installed this app and really liked it. Until I found out that my battery drained twice as fast as before! :( So I tried to uninstall the application but the drain was the same. And belive me when I say that I recognized the difference in lifetime directly after the installation.. The thing is that Fingertouch was removed from the "remove programs"-list but is still avaliable in the different keyboards-menu when I'm writing a message for example.. (the keyboardswicth down in the middle). That nidicates that the uninstallation wasn't 100%. I did a softreset between the actions but no help.. How do I remove this once and for all???
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Postby radhoo » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:29 am

ltxda wrote:Would you guys consider implementing some type of gestures into this keyboard like the default? It would help so much if we could drag up for an uppercase letter and do the rest of the gestures like the default one with PPC.

This sounds interesting, please provide more details on this idea.

Thanks,
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Postby ltxda » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:40 pm

Mattie wrote:I installed this app and really liked it. Until I found out that my battery drained twice as fast as before! :( So I tried to uninstall the application but the drain was the same. And belive me when I say that I recognized the difference in lifetime directly after the installation.. The thing is that Fingertouch was removed from the "remove programs"-list but is still avaliable in the different keyboards-menu when I'm writing a message for example.. (the keyboardswicth down in the middle). That nidicates that the uninstallation wasn't 100%. I did a softreset between the actions but no help.. How do I remove this once and for all???


I don't think it's possible for the keyboard to drain your battery...unless you installed it to an SD card or MicroDrive or something that requires additional power consumption when being utilized. I installed this and havne't noticed any difference in battery consumption and my device requires a lot of power.
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Postby ltxda » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:46 pm

radhoo wrote:
ltxda wrote:Would you guys consider implementing some type of gestures into this keyboard like the default? It would help so much if we could drag up for an uppercase letter and do the rest of the gestures like the default one with PPC.

This sounds interesting, please provide more details on this idea.

Thanks,
Radu


Just like with the default keyboard in Windows Mobile. You can enable gestures. If you drag your stylus or finger in the direction of the following arrows they actually perform an action:
--> space

^ Shifts the key you initially pressed

<-- Backspace

down arrow is like pressing enter

If you go to the options on the regular keyboard in Windows Mobile, you'll see "Use gestures for the following keys:". This is a great help when typing. Additionally, I recommend enabling trueVGA support for resolutions higher than the native settings as there is a trend heading that way. Your keyboard displays okay in trueVGA mode but could use some tweaking. Maybe one of your developers can install trueVGA and see what I mean. Hope this info helps make your product even better. So far, EVERYONE I know that has "trialed" your product thinks it a superior keyboard. One other idea...maybe you can have a mode/check box that enables key highlighting like the iphone keyboard. PocketCM Keyboard does this. Not everyone likes this feature but it may broaden your customer base if you offer this.
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Postby radhoo » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:52 pm

ltxda wrote:
Just like with the default keyboard in Windows Mobile. You can enable gestures. If you drag your stylus or finger in the direction of the following arrows they actually perform an action:
--> space

^ Shifts the key you initially pressed

<-- Backspace

down arrow is like pressing enter

If you go to the options on the regular keyboard in Windows Mobile, you'll see "Use gestures for the following keys:". This is a great help when typing. Additionally, I recommend enabling trueVGA support for resolutions higher than the native settings as there is a trend heading that way. Your keyboard displays okay in trueVGA mode but could use some tweaking. Maybe one of your developers can install trueVGA and see what I mean. Hope this info helps make your product even better. So far, EVERYONE I know that has "trialed" your product thinks it a superior keyboard. One other idea...maybe you can have a mode/check box that enables key highlighting like the iphone keyboard. PocketCM Keyboard does this. Not everyone likes this feature but it may broaden your customer base if you offer this.

Thanks for these valuable suggestions. I also think we should see them in FingerTouch.
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Postby Mattie » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:06 pm

ltxda wrote:
Mattie wrote:I installed this app and really liked it. Until I found out that my battery drained twice as fast as before! :( So I tried to uninstall the application but the drain was the same. And belive me when I say that I recognized the difference in lifetime directly after the installation.. The thing is that Fingertouch was removed from the "remove programs"-list but is still avaliable in the different keyboards-menu when I'm writing a message for example.. (the keyboardswicth down in the middle). That nidicates that the uninstallation wasn't 100%. I did a softreset between the actions but no help.. How do I remove this once and for all???


I don't think it's possible for the keyboard to drain your battery...unless you installed it to an SD card or MicroDrive or something that requires additional power consumption when being utilized. I installed this and havne't noticed any difference in battery consumption and my device requires a lot of power.


Yes, I thaught so to.. But then I read somewhere that others have had these problems also..
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Postby sad_ghost » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:48 am

@Mattie
Battery drains are very likely to be caused by a faulty RUU and not from a single application that it is used from time to time.
Could you please be more specific and point to the website were you have read that "others have the same problems also"?
The best test in this case would be to do a hard reset install the application and use FingerTouch extensivly and messure battery drain phisicaly at the same time (and making sure that there is no other app running in the background).

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Smart Keyboard and Del Key

Postby wdgeek » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:34 pm

I've been trying your Fingertouch software and its very nice. The keyboard that interest me the most is described as the "Smart Keyboard" and is the keyboard that is displayed in the 1st message in this topic.

While testing it, I wanted to delete an incorrect character that got entered, but I cant seem to find any key that will do a "del". Your other keyboards have a key labeled "<-" which will delete a character but I cant find it for this particular keyboard. If you can tell me how I can find this key, this would make this keyboard the one I would most likely use..... i.e. I will be purchasing this.

BTW, just purchased your upgrade to BlueMusic 2.0. Works great on my PPC 6700.
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Re: Smart Keyboard and Del Key

Postby radhoo » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:58 am

wdgeek wrote:I've been trying your Fingertouch software and its very nice. The keyboard that interest me the most is described as the "Smart Keyboard" and is the keyboard that is displayed in the 1st message in this topic.

While testing it, I wanted to delete an incorrect character that got entered, but I cant seem to find any key that will do a "del". Your other keyboards have a key labeled "<-" which will delete a character but I cant find it for this particular keyboard. If you can tell me how I can find this key, this would make this keyboard the one I would most likely use..... i.e. I will be purchasing this.

BTW, just purchased your upgrade to BlueMusic 2.0. Works great on my PPC 6700.

Thanks for your appreciation :)

All the keyboards have the backspace key, for layout #2="Smart keyboard" you need to press the "F" key then the "S" key. You can see that for this keyboard additional characters are added in the upper-right corner of some of the keys - you can use all of them by pressing "F" and the key you want.

Here is screenshot to better illustrate this:
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Postby wdgeek » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:41 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I was looking for a "<--" symbol for the Delete "key". I was wondering what that banner symbol was!!!!
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Postby Johny » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:58 pm

wdgeek wrote:Thanks for the clarification. I was looking for a "<--" symbol for the Delete "key". I was wondering what that banner symbol was!!!!

How are you getting along with the #2 layout?
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Postby wdgeek » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:38 pm

Johny wrote: How are you getting along with the #2 layout?]


So far my order of preference is #2 and #5 (big keyboard).

Someone else on this board suggesed the use of gestures, and for the #2 keyboard this would be especially helpful since we can avoid using the "F" key and the additional keys when we need to do a delete, or return, etc.
The "F" key on the #2 keyboard is small and may result in a miss-press, so the use of "gestures" to produce some keypresses would be especially useful.
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Postby radhoo » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:19 pm

wdgeek wrote:Someone else on this board suggesed the use of gestures, and for the #2 keyboard this would be especially helpful since we can avoid using the "F" key and the additional keys when we need to do a delete, or return, etc.
The "F" key on the #2 keyboard is small and may result in a miss-press, so the use of "gestures" to produce some keypresses would be especially useful.

Thanks for these suggestions.
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Postby radhoo » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:20 am

Sweet:
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Postby gadgetwizard » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:31 am

Sweet!

Where do i get this skin?
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Postby radhoo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:46 am

gadgetwizard wrote:Sweet!

Where do i get this skin?

Should become available on the website in a few days.
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Postby ltxda » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:22 am

radhoo wrote:Sweet:
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Best keyboard with the best skin AROUND!
Thanks Radhoo and Teksoftco.com!
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Postby Johny » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:43 pm

ltxda wrote:Best keyboard with the best skin AROUND!
Thanks Radhoo and Teksoftco.com!

You sure are right on this one, mate!

My best wishes for these guys, it's amazing to see what they are capable of :shock:
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HTC x7500 and RealVGA

Postby Tino » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:00 am

I use my HTC Athena (x7500) with RealVGA at 128 dpi. Fingertousch don't run with this mode. :)
Keys are very small and the keyboard .... lose keys.
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Re: HTC x7500 and RealVGA

Postby radhoo » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:49 pm

Tino wrote:I use my HTC Athena (x7500) with RealVGA at 128 dpi. Fingertousch don't run with this mode. :)
Keys are very small and the keyboard .... lose keys.

Actually it does.

ltxda, could you please point this guy in the right direction? A link to your Athena ROM project would be useful here.
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Postby Tino » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:44 am

I must change rom? I have fear :(
i would like use fingertouch without change rom but in realvga mode. Actually i use pocketcm keyboard but ... fingertouch is better :)
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Record button problem

Postby vmiguel » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:50 pm

Hi all,

I have a problem with FingerTouch on my Jasjar, running a non official WM6: the Record button, that should go to the notes list, on a click, and start recording a voice note, on click and hold, is not acting accordingly: on click and hold, all is fine, but on a single clich, it shows FingerTouch keyboard, and nothing more. If I click a second time, it hides FingerTouch, and returns to the Today screen, or any other that was active before the first click.

As this behaviour was not happening before I installed FingerTouch, I believe it's a FT problem, can you confirm?

TIA, and best regards to all the team

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Multilanguage (Greek)

Postby paman » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:24 pm

Hi to all,
this really seems like what I'm expecting from a keyboard
But, does this software support multilaguage interface?

Thanks,

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installation

Postby Termica » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:56 pm

Sorry for my silly question, but i downloaded the program, I extract the CAB file, but there is no executable file to install it!!!!ùCan u help me??
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Feature Requests

Postby jim256 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:03 pm

Hi, I know that I have already contacted support about these feature requests, but I just thought it would be nice to have them out here in the forums.

Request #1 : An XT9 like system for text input, therefore eliminating the current need to press a key more than once to get to its second letter. This would be great on the 5th keyboard layout.

Request #2 : iPhone like predictive text, in that as you go along typing, the "tapzones" for different letters are enlarged/shrunk. Apple explains it here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/gettingstar ... edium.html

Thanks for your great product and support, Jim.
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Postby PAPPL » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:11 pm

Hi, i'm using Fingertouch with VGA device HTC Athena, and this device screen has got horizontal layout.
For this reason the Fingertouch panel is kind of big, so only little visible space of screen left. Often i do not see what i am typing because some apps do not scroll automaticly to the active cursor. See screenshots. :?
Is it somehow possible to add a keyboard like FT-Keyboard layout 1 but smaller height to leave more visible screen.
See screenshots. Standard keyboard with big keys is a little too small for fingers to touch, but leaves a good visible screen. Something between would be a good solution. :)
How can the height or layout be changed, or is here already another layout to download?
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2/3 of screen is keyboard
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1/3 of screen is keyboard (better usability)
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